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posted by Brian Marland(R), 11.04.2009, 13:38

» » » » » » » Hello Cathy and anyone else interested.
» » » » » » »
» » » » » » » I was in Dublin last week and walked past a Huguenot Cemetery.
»
» » » On
» » » » » the
» » » » » » » memorial plaque was a list of names of those buried there
» » » including
» » » » » » » Marlande.
» » » » » » » Does anybody know whether there is a connection? Maybe the
» » » » original
» » » » » » » Marlands of Rochdale were Norman and left behind French
» » relatives.
» » »
» » » » » » Hence
» » » » » » » Maurice Marland the resistance hero.
» » » » » » »
» » » » » » » Look forward to any replies.
» » » » » » »
» » » » » » » Jean
» » » » » » FROM BRIAN MARLAND. THERE WAS A LIST OF HUGUENOTS IN CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL NEXT TO THE HUGUENOT CHAPEL IN THE CRYPT. THERE WERE deMARLANDS ON IT. LAST TIME I WENT IN, THE LIST HAD BEEN REMOVED. BUTERWORTH, THE HISTORIAN FROM OLDHAM. SAID IN HIS 1840S BOOK THAT THE MARLANDS WERE BURIED IN THE ROCHDALE PARISH CHURCH CRYPT WITH THEIR NORMAN ANCESTORS. THEY CREATED THE TRINITY CHAPEL, WITHIN THE PARISH CHURCH OF ROCHDALE IN 1487. THE FOUNDERS WERE SIR RANDOLP BUTTERWORTH OF BELFIELD. ROCHDALE. DR ADAM MARLAND DEAN OF KENDAL, SIR JAMES MIDDLETON.. SIR JAMES WAS THE PRIEST. IT WAS SOLD TO ALEXANDER BUTTERWORTH BY JAMES MARLAND OF MARLAND IN 1665. IN 1883 THE CHAPEL WAS INCORPERATED INTO THE CHURCH.
» » » » » »
» » » » » » Hello Jean
» » » » » »
» » » » » » I don't know if there is a connection but seems there may be a
» » » trend
» » » » » » appearing (see my post of 20/10/07).
» » » » » »
» » » » » » If you search on Roger de Poitevin (an Anglo Norman), that will
» » » give
» » » » you
» » » » » a
» » » » » » big clue as to how much French influence there was in the
» » Rochdale
» » » » » area.
» » » » » » The Poitevin is a marshland area in Brittany, just north of La
» » » » Rochelle
» » » » » » (which uncannily sounds like Rochdale)and South of the French
» » place
» » » » » called
» » » » » » Marland.
» » » » » »
» » » » » » Roger (the 3rd son of the Earl of Montgomery)married a French
» » lady
» » » » from
» » » » » » Poitiers, I think, and his / ancestors (can't remember
» which)were
» » » » good
» » » » » » mates with William The Conqueror. Roger seems to have done well
» » out
» » » » of
» » » » » this
» » » » » » by receiving vast large land tracts in Lancashire (including
» » » » Rochdale)
» » » » » »
» » » » » » Like I said, I don't know but there could be a bigger picture.
» » » » »
» » » » »
» » » » » Also, it looks to me that while Roger de Poitevin was the
» overlord
» » of
» » » » » Rochdale area that the river and tributaries were given French
» » names
» » » » i.e
» » » » » Norden Brook, Sudden Brook and the Roch - Norden and Sudden
» » villages
» » » » are
» » » » » tightly squeezed between / around Marland village and Rochdale.
» » » »
» » » »
» » » » If you search on the Kings and Dukes of Brittany family tree, the
» » name
» » » » Alan seems very popular. My guess is that Alan came from the
» » marshlands
» » » of
» » » » Brittany and left his influence in Rochdale.
» » » »
» » » » I now await to be shot down in flames:)
» » »
» » »
» » » Head up - no resistance so far. Today, I searched on the city of
» Vannes
» » » again and can't believe I missed the River Marle flows through it.
» This
» » is
» » » a few miles north of la Grand Briere (where Marland is).This is
» » important
» » » because Alan I was the Count of Vannes and duke of Brittany from 876
» » until
» » » his death in his death in 907.
» »
» » The other one is with regard to the clan 'the Alans' according to
» » Wikipedia, a faction of the Alans (originally from Iran), did settle in
» » Brittany (then named Amorica)after J. C.
»
»
» Looking at the coat of arms for Alan de Merland in the Heraldry section,if
» picture enlarged - it appears that the black specks on the upper secton
» could be 'ermine spots'. If this is what they are, this again may link
» 'Alan de ...' to Brittany. Brittany flag is full of 'ermine spots'and many
» Brittany cities and villages have flags containing the 'ermine spots'. The
» stoat was seen as a symbol of fortune in Brittany between 10th and 14th
» centuries as depicted on the flag of Vannes. The closest Brittany flag I
» have spotted so far to Alan de Marland's coat of arms is that of Dinan, as
» it has the castle fortification plus ' ermine spots'. Any other opinions
» welcome.

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